In this jam-packed episode, Dustin is joined by Steve Jackson, creator of VirtualInvestorPLUS, a real estate investment management software system. Dustin and Steve run the gamut of subjects, getting right at it with a near-death experience. Steve also shares stories of resilience as he recounts his experiences on rebounding from bankruptcy and surviving The Crash. This episode will teach you what to look for in real estate, whether you want to get into rentals or flips. There's also a lot about systemizing your business, so you can do the things you want to do - and that comes from having a system and the right mindset. Finally, learn what it means to equip the people you're working with as opposed to straight-up managing them.