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Ryan Long: Adversity, Gratitude, And Sir Richard Branson!?

I am taking us to Hollywood. I say that with the utmost respect and excitement level. We are actually talking to Ryan Long who is a philanthropist and also the Founder of the City Summit and City Gala.

The reason why this is so fascinating is Ryan has an incredible story to share. Not one that you would think would lead him to where he is and able to attract incredibly big names such as Sir Richard Branson, Travolta, De Niro and I share more in the episode. You can find out all the folks that he has had the opportunity to work with or speak at his events. Not to go completely star power there, we spend a great deal of time talking about Ryan's past, his history and how he's overcome adversity, which is a theme that happens throughout everything that he does through his shows, the people that come to his events.

We all overcome adversity, you're going to hear about that. You're also going to hear something that I want you to pay extra close attention to. Gratitude and fear existing at the same time, it's not possible. Make sure to pay extra close attention to that. We also talk about how is it that little old Ryan Long, a guy with a bad upbringing so to say, is able to attract some of the world's biggest names in the business, entertainment, music, Hollywood. How is it that he's able to do it? There are lots of great nuggets for this and so I am super excited for you to hear that.

Dustin
Ryan, at one point in your life, you were a personal trainer who was lured into the nightclub business that ended up not treating you so well. Failure upon failure, you have this vision in this failure for advancing community through humanitarian events and would attract Halle Berry, Branson, Travolta, Quincy Jones, Russell Simmons, Robert De Niro, John Paul DeJoria, and I'm sure I'm missing a few and Colin Farrell coming up. You've contributed through your efforts, through your team and through your organizations, you've contributed several hundred thousand dollars to charitable causes. Ryan, I got to ask right off the bat, what did you see back then when life isn't as it is? What was that vision that you had?
Ryan
I like the way that Steve Jobs said, “You only can connect the dots going backwards.” When I was a personal trainer, I loved being a personal trainer. I did not have a vision that I was going to one day get into the Hollywood nightclub circuit and become a nightclub promoter. What happened is, I was successful as a personal trainer at a young age. I was having a little bit of success at a young age, what does a poor kid from the ghetto do as soon as he gets a little bit of money? He goes and buys a nice car to show people that he has a little bit of money. That's the biggest mistake that you can make. I buy this nice fancy car, I'm driving it everyday. I'm the fitness director at LA Fitness and I'm driving my fancy car everyday, which is attracting all sorts of the wrong attention.
One of the personal trainers that worked for me underneath me as a personal trainer, came up to me one day and he said, “My friend and I have this idea of throwing these club party events in Hollywood.” This is a few years ago. I said, “That sounds fantastic.” He sold it to me like this, “We're going to sell 520 tickets a week, that's $10,000 a week and you'll get half. You help us rent this facility. You give us the money for the down payment of the facility, pay for the DJ, you pay the costs up front. We'll go out, do the promoting and we'll sell all these a $20 admission pass and we're going to rake it in.” It did not happen that way at all.
Dustin
What did you do to pivot? I imagined you get excited about this possibility and this opportunity. When things aren't going well, what's going through your head? What did you do?
Ryan
At that point, what I did was I started helping them promote. Week after week, we had an empty night club. We were making no money. We didn't even know how to be nightclub promoters and get the word out. Facebook didn't exist, Google didn't exist. You have to actually connect with people one by one, hammering the phone, taking flyers and going out to Venice Beach and passing out flyers to random people that I thought would enjoy our nightclub experience. The lesson that I learned is one of integrity. I was telling LA Fitness that I was clocked in and doing my work and I was not. I was over here on the other side of the city promoting this nightclub business that I was trying to get off the ground. They found out and they fired me and I learned that integrity is very important.
As Tony Robbins says, “You only do what you must.” At that point, I had no choice but to make that nightclub promotion business work. That's when I started saying, “I have to make this work. I have no job. No other gym, Gold's Gym or Bally Total Fitness is going to hire me after being fired as someone that lied to their organization.” I was not employable at the level that I got to. I had to become an entrepreneur at that point. Tony Robbins is right. You only do what you must. I needed to succeed in making money in the nightclub business. That was the genesis of me starting in promoting.
Dustin
My understanding is you were in the nightclub business. You do a little pivot to where you start promoting musical acts. Is that where you found success with that phase of your life?
Ryan
Yes, we did nightclub events and anything that I got my hands on that I thought could make money, I started to move towards. When you're out in Hollywood it is sex, drugs and Rock and Roll. One of the things was music, Rock and Roll. These upcoming bands, these upcoming performers wanted to get onstage. I used my connections. I got them on stage. They would sell a certain amount of ticket, they call it Pay to Play. They would sell a certain amount of tickets to get up on stage and I would bring out the A and R representatives or representatives from organizations that are looking for talent, Universal Music Group, Sony Music Entertainment or Warner Brothers Records to watch this talent as they're performing live. It was a cool thing and I liked doing that because I loved inspiring musicians. I promoted anything that I got my hands on because I didn't have any standards at the time. It didn't matter if it was adult industry related, music related, whatever. That's the part that led me to have some incongruences in my life because I wasn't raised to be the type of person that's flashy bling-bling, “I want to be the King of Hollywood type of thing.”
Dustin
I want to go there. It's a perfect segue into my understanding of your upbringing. You weren't born into Hollywood circles. You had a tough upbringing. You've had your fair share of adversity. What was childhood like growing up for you?
Ryan
I was born out of wedlock. You can imagine the arrival of a child that's half black and half white. I was born in 1979 when it was still frowned upon to have children outside of marriage. My mom did not tell my family that I was going to arrive. She hid and she was either contemplating how she's going to tell the family that she's about to have a baby or not. She was very young when she got pregnant with me. My father was a philanderer, someone that was not going to ever be a great father. He was in and out of prison and so forth. When mom had me, she introduced me to the family and I was born with a foot impediment called clubfoot, meaning my foot was entirely backwards. Not only was I born out of wedlock, but my mom has this crippled baby that she has to get fixed. She got me fixed up, she got a cast put on my leg and several surgeries to be a straight, normal looking foot. That’s how I arrived. From there, my mom met my soon to be stepfather. I had a brother and a sister. My mom knew how to choose him, let's just put it that way. He was an alcoholic, not a good guy. Me, my brother, my sister and my mom raised us by herself. We moved around a lot because she was always trying to get us into a better neighborhood.
We were in the impoverished type of neighborhoods here in the Los Angeles areas, areas that weren’t good. There were gangs, drugs, violence and so she kept trying to move us around to better places. We didn't have the freedom of choice because we were on housing assistance and food stamps. The government had a lot of control over where we could live. We can only live in these certain areas. My mom didn't realize what she was doing when I was young by moving us around. It gave me a sense of not being able to connect with my friends because I always had to make new friends. I never let anybody get close to me. Those were some adversities that we went through and one of the best things that ever happened is that my mom got me into athletics. I was a hyperactive kid. She got me into athletics and that started to steer me into the goal setting. It gave me a good discipline and it gave me a bond with my grandfather.
Dustin
I've heard you've got an insane work ethic. You attribute that to sports to your grandfather, from running from the lifestyle that you were brought up in? Where does that come from for you?
Ryan
It absolutely comes from my grandfather. The very first lesson that I learned in work ethic from him was when he came to a little league baseball game of mine. He watched me strike out three times and it was the best thing that could've ever happened in my life. Shortly thereafter, he called my mom and said, “I'd like to take Ryan to the batting cage.” Once we got to the batting cage, he made me swing that bat until my hands were bloody. That was not punishment. That was just his mentality. His mentality was like, “You're going to swing until you get this right.” He was also standing outside of the cage giving me guidance, giving me instructions, “Lean back, you're swinging under, you're swinging over, you’re swinging too fast. Wait for the ball to get into your zone.” Things of that nature. That mentorship and the application of what I like to call farm boy work ethic because he grew up on a farm. The combination of those two things, the desire to be good in athletics and then the implementation of that type of work ethic. It allowed me to blossom and understand what type of work ethic it takes to succeed in any type of area of your life.
Dustin
You're big into personal development, self-development. Where did you pick this up? How did that enter your life?
Ryan
That did not come from a friend coming along and saying, “You should read this book and get into this.” That came from me just utterly hitting rock bottom. My grandfather who we've been talking about had taken his life due to mental illness. Through the encouragement of my family, I then started down the path of attempting to get married and settle down. You have to imagine this Hollywood guy who's surrounded by women sex, drugs, and Rock and Roll. I'm unfit mentally, emotionally to get married, yet I have the desire to and I'm with such a wonderful gal at the time. I did propose. We were going to get married and it wound up that the lifestyle was proving that I couldn't handle both. The home life and the life on the road, the life of a promoter so to speak, too many women, too much stuff. It made her angry, upset and hurt.
After she had a couple of abortions and we had anything in the world to fight about. We could fight about the endless amounts of things that we had put each other through at the time. After grandfather’s death, I'm trying to make plans for a new life, I'm out there clubbing. I finally just gave it all up, stopped working, fell into a deep depression. I actually moved away from the girl that I was with. We broke up and separated. I moved into my grandma in grandfather's house. In the very room where my grandfather took his life is where I started reading personal development and self-help books.
For an entire year, I started reading. I wasn't going to seminars, I didn't have the money. I was broke. I wasn't going to seminars but I would google it, I would be online, I'm watching the videos. I'm listening to Tony Robbins, I'm reading his books. I'm listening to Jack Canfield. I'm watching the movie, The Secret. I'm being rewired from the inside out and that pivotal moment of getting to a place where money didn't matter. I ran out of it, so that was gone. Stripping everything away and finally getting to the point where it's like, “I have nothing. What should I do from here?” Rebuilding on a foundation of, “This is what true transformation looks like.” It helped me set new standards, new values, new goals and it helped me understand who I am, what I wanted to be and what I wanted to do with myself and the rest of my life.
Dustin
I want to acknowledge it, you've come at peace with this. You talk about it so emotionless, maybe you've done this a time or two. I feel like you're very clear-headed about this. You're an open book.
Ryan
I have spoken about this transformative experience that I had. It's important for other people to realize that that working on yourself is absolutely the best investment that you can make. The more that you know yourself, the more congruent that you can get all of your behaviors, whether it's friends, family, finances, everything congruent and going in the same direction, the better off you are.
Dustin
Take us back then to the first ever City Summit, City Gala. You're rebuilding your life, your head is in the right direction, you get this idea and things are starting to evolve. Take us to that first event. Who was there? How did you get people excited about this opportunity?
Ryan
There was a long runway to get to the first ever City Summit and Gala. Almost a decade ago when I was doing the reading, I made new goals. I had a vision board and I had all this stuff. I did several projects along the way that led me to the idea of having this Gala and Summit. I wanted to do work that was going to help other people. I wanted to take the focus off of me and put it onto what is going to be helpful for other people. I did these projects that we're raising money in it for humanitarian. I wanted to make sure that all of my resources were going into something positive, good in the world and leave the entire sex, drugs and Rock and Roll thing behind. I did several projects that led me to the idea of holding an annual Gala. Once I got that idea, then I started formulating who I wanted to work with. People that aligned with the same type of vision of what our Summit and Gala represent and to advance the community.
I thought that for the first ever, it would be phenomenal if we had Sir Richard Branson as our featured keynote speaker. Quite simply put, he accomplished all of these things. It was one of the books that read during my own transformation. I read his books and was inspired by the things that he had done. He was no innocent, sweet guy in the beginning either in the music industry. He was smuggling records across borders and in Europe to get a cheaper price so then you could start his Virgin Records. It was an a-ha moment for me to know that it's not how you start, it’s how you finish. I wanted my intentions to good and I wanted people that aligned with it. The first ever Gala with Sir Richard Branson was phenomenal. From there, we wanted to keep our standards high and make sure that we're attracting the right people.
Dustin
Sir Richard Branson, why not swinging for the fence on the first go and you did. The question people have to be thinking is like, “If I want to do either something charitable, something in business or a combination of the two, how do I even approach someone like Sir Richard Branson?” How does one go and get someone like that involved?
Ryan
The first thing is you look for people that are on the same crusade as you are. They have to be aligned with what your vision is. You want to make sure that the people you're attracting are going to look at the offer to come and speak and say, “This is perfect for me. I'd love to do this.” The first thing is, does the person, speaker, influencer or a celebrity align with the values of what it is that you're doing? Secondly, anyway that you can have friends, family, connections, publicists, agents, managers, as we stated it, I've been in and around the Hollywood circuit for sixteen years. For me, there's always an agent or manager connection somewhere in there that could lead me down the right path in order to secure the right type of speakers and celebrities.
Dustin
You’ve come from that world, you do know the language. If someone doesn't have the relationship, the mindset around a publicist or a manager, what's it for them to carry on that person's message or even your message? What's in it for that manager, publicist to actually get it past gatekeeper status into the eyes or ears of that influencer?
Ryan
We have to remember that managers and publicists look at their celebrity client as a brand. Their first thing is to protect them, over and above making money. If they're at a certain level, they're already making money. Sir Richard Branson is a multi-billionaire. It's not a moneymaking thing all the time. The first thing is to realize that they're going to protect their brand fiercely. They're going to protect them with everything that they got because that's their job. Their job as a publicist is to get them featured in the best light. As a manager, it's to get them the best gigs, the things that are empowering, the things that really raised the level of awareness and are good for their career. For City Summit and City Gala, because we are so committed to doing things that are humanitarian good, we are committed to doing things that are of service and contribution. We're committed to helping entrepreneurs grow their business. It makes it a little bit easier for people to get involved in say yes.
Dustin
Would you share with the WealthFit Nation, the actual model? Get into the details of what the City Summit and the City Gala are. How is it that you bring entrepreneurs together? Why do influencers or celebrities show up at this event and what happens in this environment?
Ryan
The City Summit is a business acceleration experience, where we have multiple different speakers that have already accomplished phenomenal success in business. One of my principles is we want to make sure that if a business owner is standing on stage speaking on business fundamentals or marketing or digital marketing, that they're the best. They have accomplished it. They are running a business and they're the best in that field. That’s very important to learn from. There're a lot of seminars or conferences out there where you can go, people can gas you up full of success talk and it's wonderful. I'm not saying that they shouldn't, mindset training or things of that nature but at the City Summit, you're going to have speakers that have already accomplished. They've already built a billion-dollar brand and now they're telling you how to build a billion-dollar brand.
Those are the types of people that I want to learn from. The City Summit is how we make money. It's a for-profit event to be very clear. When we're selling tickets and we're selling sponsors, we want our sponsors to be happy. We want our audience to be happy. That's why we get the big public relations vehicle, the bigger attractions and bigger names to come out because it makes our sponsors happy. It excites our audience. The really cool thing is that these people have been through a lot. We had Ashton Kutcher and Matthew McConaughey out. Ashton Kutcher's built a billion-dollar fund and people don't know that. They see him as an actor and they don't know what a phenomenal business person who he is. He's also working on anti-human trafficking things. He spoke in front of Congress. He's an avid supporter of eradicating human slavery on this planet.
With Matthew McConaughey, same thing. He has a foundation, it's called Just Keep Livin. Phenomenal actor, Oscar Award-winning actor but you don't know some of these things unless you're diving into their personal lives. They’re committed to doing great things in the world. We're attracting the right people because we're in alignment with them and they're delivering at the Summit. They're delivering something that's very inspirational and it's tied to something socially conscious. We call ourselves at the Summit a world-class, socially conscious business acceleration experience.
Dustin
How do you raise money? Do all the proceeds go to someone's charity? How does the money flow into the causes that you support and that you get behind?
Ryan
The Summit is a for-profit business. It’s like any other success resources or business mastery with Tony Robbins, it's like that. It is a for-profit endeavor where we offer opportunities for entrepreneurs to come in, build and grow. Once a year we have what's called the City Gala. It’s a fundraiser event on the evening of the Academy Awards, the same night as the Oscars. After the Oscars, everybody’s in town, all the celebrities are in town and we host is black tie Gala. My organization is called the Global Unity Foundation. At the City Gala, we do these auctions and these experiences in order to raise funds for organizations that I’m supporting, feeding the hungry, sheltering the homeless, liberating and rehabilitating young people from human sex trafficking, health and wellness, mentorship and education programs.
Dustin
What do you say to somebody that is an entrepreneur, maybe an investor and they are excited about what you're up to in the world but maybe they're a little gun shy around celebrities? They're afraid to come out, they don't understand the value that they could offer. What do you say to those folks?
Ryan
The celebrity thing isn't for everybody. If your business is B2B then social proof, which is one of the things that we offer at our events, there's a high level of social proof. Sometimes if you're selling business to business, that doesn't mean as much say in a space of people that you want consumers to see you functioning at the highest level. That's something that we offer. Entrepreneurs are coming to the City Summit to learn how to grow their business. We have celebrities, influencers, billionaires, people that are teaching that, teaching how to be successful. If you want to grow your business, the City Summit is the place for you to connect with the right people, learn the right information, and definitely formulate innovation in your mind.
There are only a couple of things that we share in common in business. The one most critical thing that we share in common is we're all going to have to overcome adversity, that's coming. Overcoming adversity is the most common thread of all entrepreneurs no matter what. Overcoming adversity is a combination of a couple of things. It’s being steadfast in your goal and flexible in your approach and then innovating, you got to get creative. If you keep changing your approach and you get creative about things, you're going to win, you're going to overcome that adversity. The Summit teaches people that.
Dustin
You deal with a lot of nonprofits and some people will be interested in that. What are some of the common misconceptions you see about nonprofits, obviously doing a nonprofit and doing a for-profit business?
Ryan
A common misconception is that the nonprofit business owners need to run their nonprofit like a business. There is not that much of a difference between running a for and a nonprofit other than certain filings and certain things that you have to do because the IRS wants its money. When you say nonprofit what you're saying is, “IRS, you are not getting any tax money from us.” Your records have to be straight. Your bookkeeping has to be straight in a different way. That's the biggest difference between one and the other. Everything else is the same and it should be treated as such. When you're running a nonprofit, people usually come to me and they say, “I have this idea for a nonprofit. It's going to help so many people.” They’re all fired up about it. I say, “That's great. Here is the thing, you still need a business plan. You still need to plan for your overhead. If you're going to have employees or an all-volunteer staff, you're still going to have expenses. You need to plan for running a business as a nonprofit.”
Dustin
There was one question I forgot to ask you. What surprised you in your journey of nonprofit and for-profit specifically, City Gala and City Summit? What has surprised you in your journey about growing these things and spreading awareness?
Ryan
Far vast majority of people, I hate to sound negative on this but it's the truth. The biggest surprise is that they're not giving from their heart. They're giving to get something. If they're donating to City Gala, they want an experience, they want something out of it. I'm not saying that that's everybody. I'm not grouping everybody into that position. The far vast majority of people are giving you money because they want an experience, not necessarily because they believe in your cause. That hurt me and that was something that was hurtful along the way. I'm like, “We're doing something good here. Don't you want to get involved? Don't you want to give money?” It's like, “Yes, but.” Some people want to be seen giving, some people want the experience. They'll buy auction experiences where they get vacation packages. They'll go by auction experiences where they get meet and greets with celebrity, whomever it is. I had to learn that, I had to retool that in my mind that, “Not everybody's going to cut you a check for the sake of helping you out. You do have to deliver value to people, whether it's for or nonprofit, you have to deliver the value for people.
Dustin
You said something that plays in line. I caught something that you said that people will work for money but they will die for recognition. Is that in this conversation here, that what's driving a lot of people is to be recognized whether that's publicly or a pat on the back at work? How do you leverage that statement, “People work for money but they will die for recognition?”
Ryan
I was quoting someone else when I said that. I know the person that said that to me. The person that said that to me is a very dear friend of mine, his name is Dr. James Dentley. I don't want to encompass everybody into that statement, “They'll work for money or die for recognition.” As I go along and as I have dealt with one thing after the other, overcoming this adversity, moving onto that next thing and looking at the journey as a whole, I've lost my ability to care about judging people on why they're giving. From here on out there, if they're giving, they're giving from their heart. If they're giving, they're giving for recognition. If they're giving, they're giving because they want their brand increase, they want to network with the social lead. Whatever reason it arrives that they want to take part in what it is that we're doing, I've just opened the books and I'm just like, “Do you want in? Come on in.” I'm happy to service anyone that wants to take part in what it is that we're doing.
Dustin
I'm curious, ever since that shift in your mindset, have you noticed a recognizable difference maybe in yourself or in your business since having that?
Ryan
Yes. The only thing that I would say is that I do have a certain amount of standards. It's not I'm taking from anybody. I'm not going to take money from drug lords or promote certain sponsors that we won't take money from like for example, cigarette companies. We're not going to promote a cigarette brand. I have felt a shift and that shift is quite simple. Be open. The universe is sending people, money, and resources your way. Be open in the way that it's coming to you because, even though you may not have dreamed about it that way, you thought it was going to come in one way and they came in and different way, that is totally okay.
Dustin
What are you excited about? What's next for what you’re up to in the world?
Ryan
I'm excited about City Summit and I'm excited to create more joint ventures so that we could spread this message and start to do this around the world. I'm looking for those types of partners that are aligned with what it is that we do. I call entrepreneurs the problem solvers of the world. They're solving a problem for a profit. I'd love to see this message and what it is that we're doing. I'd love to see that continue to spread throughout the world. I'm excited to partner up with some people that are very much aligned with our vision.
Dustin
I want to do a couple rapid fire questions here for those that are excited about some of the things that they've heard, whether that's coming to the Summit or maybe somehow getting involved with what you're up to. What are the types of things, resources, and people are you looking for? What help do you desire in addition to partners?
Ryan
Without a doubt, people that are hungry to grow their business, those are the people that I want to meet. I want to meet people that are likeminded, hungry to grow, and hungry to help. They have a true passion for what's next, what's to come. Innovators, people that are excited about creating new things. I thrive on that type of enthusiasm.
Dustin
I want to move us into WealthFit round, which is just essentially my fancy name for rapid fire questions. I know you're not big on talking about yourself here but I'm going to ask anyway. When life is doing well, when things are going great for you, what's your guilty spending splurge? If you want to treat yourself to something, what is that for you?
Ryan
I would say experiences, travel. Anywhere tropical: Bahamas, Hawaii and Cabo is great for me.
Dustin
You're a big student of self-development and growth. A lot of times it's the fear of the unknown or even fear of success that prevents people from moving forward. What is your advice when you encounter somebody that is maybe limited by fear, preventing them from getting to that next level? What do you tell them?
Ryan
Depending on the case and how bad they want the item that they're going after, the success that they're going after. I remind them to take one step at a time. When I'm up against a thing, I have to chunk it down, eat the elephant one spoonful at a time and usually, that really helps. Remembering that life isn't about work, life is so many more things, relationships and fun. We get so caught up and having to be successful in work. We get so caught up that we forget that we have a family, friends, and people around us who love and support us. If they're stuck in fear, then remembering something that they're grateful for because it's impossible to be grateful and fearful at the same time.
Dustin
In keeping in line with that understanding, it's not all about the hustle, the grind or whatever the trending word is. Entrepreneurs and achievers like yourself, there's so much opportunity out there. I'm curious, how do you prevent yourself from saying yes to things? What are the things that guide you back to your mission, your cause or your purpose?
Ryan
One of the things that I've done strategically is we do this these regional summits all over the United States. I'm not available, I almost have to say no, whereas when I was sitting in the same city, not on the road, I wasn't as busy. Fully committing myself to the actual building of the regional Summits all across the United States has helped me in my ability to say no and get the distractions out of the way.
Dustin
That's interesting because my follow-up to that would be being on the road is a tricky thing for some people. What are your special routines and how do you adapt those too for travel?
Ryan
Waking up and working out is a part of my everyday. When I'm at my peak, it doesn't matter if I'm traveling on the road or if I'm at home, I wake up, I work out, I get my mind focused. I've prepared what it is that I want to do onto the day as opposed to letting the day come to me. I'm not checking emails, I’m not checking phone calls and I'm not checking all of that stuff until I have my day set up. I go attack my day first and then I allow the emails and phone calls and all that stuff to be answered.
Dustin
You credit a lot of books that you've met in relationships. I'm interested to know, who do you learn from? Where are your biggest sources of inspiration and information to help you grow in this world?
Ryan
It's undoubtedly the people that I interview almost constantly on the road. I'm always around people that are doing something bigger, better, badder, bolder. They're innovating and they're looking at the future. It inspires me to learn from them and that's the best way for me to learn because I'm so interested in what they're talking about.
Dustin
Thank you for being on the show and for what you're up to as a person. You're changing so many lives. I know you know that but it's also good to get that acknowledgment, that recognition a little bit. I want to honor you with that. For folks that want to stay up with you, if they can, what's the best way for them to do so? Would you please give us some information about the City Gala and the Summit that's coming up?
Ryan
Everything can be found at CitySummit.co.
Dustin
Are you big into social media? Can I follow you there?
Ryan
There are links to social, there are links to the Gala, there are links to our travel schedule. Everything can be listed at CitySummit.co. As a promoter of sorts, I've learned you send everybody to the one spot and then they can find everything else.
Dustin
I’m excited to come to the City Summit and the Gala coming up. I want to thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.
Ryan
Thanks again. I appreciate you having me on. This was fun.

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